Saturday, February 17, 2007

Ghost Rider The Movie: Setting us back HOW far?

this just in from this morning's San Francisco Chronicle
The movie also, unfortunately, does a lot to undo the recent goodwill that "Batman Begins," "Sin City," "A History of Violence" and "V for Vendetta" have built toward this underappreciated genre of films. If "300" doesn't kick supreme butt next month, people might ditch "graphic novel" from their lingo and start calling them "comic books" again.
I mean, c'mon people, I just blogged about this a week ago! We gotta keep moving forward here!

8 comments:

James Meeley said...

Well, I haven't seen the film yet, so I can't speak on the issue they raise.

However, I will say that often time many people who see a film that one with an ounce of common sense will know is cheesey, come away with nothing but bile and scorn, which totally misses the whole point of a cheesey film.

Going from the trailers i've seen for Ghost Rider, it certainly doesn't look like it's meant to be look at in a serious tone. The puns and in-jokes look to be in full effect. Now, maybe they fail to deliver, I don't know. As I said, I haven't seen the film yet. But I know from personal experience that some of the most enjoyable movies I like, have been ones the "so-called" critics have panned harshly.

I hope, Charles, that we never get to a point in comics, where the desire to be taken seriously means we can't allow ourselves to laugh and have fun at the silliness of some of thier conventions. I'm all for getting the mass public to acknowledge comics are more than "biff-pow-bam!", but I certainly don't want that aspect of comics completely removed for the sake of doing so. Let us not forget one very important thing: Comics are meant to be fun and entertaining. If you do that through serious-minded drama or silly cheesiness should matter. I hope that we never make the case that it should be, either.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen Ghost Rider but from what I have seen in the preview it seems like an interesting movie. I might wait until it is available at the video store though...

Danny said...

I didn't mind it. I reviewed it after I saw the preview mid last week. Other than Nic Cage getting on my nerves it wasn't that bad. The Ghost Rider itself looked bloody impressive and made the movie really.

Tim Perkins said...

Hi Charles,

I saw the trailer a while back and thought it looked bloody great.

Trouble, as we know, is that folks look to be all serious about what we do...It's like we used to say when we worked in the big apple together, some folks hate to admit we work in a kids entertainment industry, where the kids can be six or indeed sixty, but still have the capacity to enjoy a good tale.

Some folks have to intellectualise and pontificate about the "seriousness" of the work...

Come on guys these are comics for goodness sake...and a hell spawned biker with a flaming skull riding a motor bike???!!!

Ecch, speak to Mike Ploog and ask him if he was being serious when he designed the character back in the 70's...'ell no he was having fun!!!

Later...and have fun yourselves!
Tim...

Sound Chaser said...

Charles, my good man,

Having seen the film Ghost Rider, I must say there is NOTHING wrong with it in as much as it relates to "comic book" vs. "graphic novel". I liked the way it all worked out and how things went. I don't think the term "graphic novel" is any more or less in danger as a result of GR.

You may now dismiss me as an idiot if you wish, but I stand by my statement. It gets me going back to my rather sparse collection of GR given me by a friend. Not in collectible condition, but an all right read nonetheless.

inkdestroyedmybrush said...

sound-
I would never call anyone an idiot ove something like this. i merely cease to listen to you. ;-)

seriously, it certainly appears to me that the people who liked GR are in touch with their inner kid, and love the movie for its quirky fun appeal. My old buddie Tim Perkins has clearly made a case for the character not being too serious, just something to have fun with. I get that. I just haven't seen the film yet.

I think that I've been working so very long to try and get people, including my own family, to take what we do seriously as art, whether its the art of high drama or high comedy. and its tough. we're overcoming 3 or 4 generations of predjudice on this, so I'm a lot more "prickly" then I probably should be.

By the way, Mike Ploog rocks. Always has.

inkdestroyedmybrush said...

sound-
I would never call anyone an idiot ove something like this. i merely cease to listen to you. ;-)

seriously, it certainly appears to me that the people who liked GR are in touch with their inner kid, and love the movie for its quirky fun appeal. My old buddie Tim Perkins has clearly made a case for the character not being too serious, just something to have fun with. I get that. I just haven't seen the film yet.

I think that I've been working so very long to try and get people, including my own family, to take what we do seriously as art, whether its the art of high drama or high comedy. and its tough. we're overcoming 3 or 4 generations of predjudice on this, so I'm a lot more "prickly" then I probably should be.

By the way, Mike Ploog rocks. Always has.

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